No Contact and N-Dipping https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/t7634 Runboard| No Contact and N-Dipping en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:12:32 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 17:12:32 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p184536,from=rss#post184536https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p184536,from=rss#post184536I love the OP, the replies in this thread, and especially this: quote:okiegal52 "Kicking and screaming" describes exactly how I would not let go of the need for "closure" for so long, I continued to waste my precious time on sending unanswered emails for several months! I'm there right now...I've been writing him multiple emails the past week or so, mostly just making conversation. Then I told myself it was going to stop. Well, I broke NC today and wrote him another unanswered and rather pathetic email asking him to please get in touch with me...I didn't quite beg, but the implication was there, and that's how our relationship has gone for over 3 years: He tells me it's over, we're never speaking again, leave him the hell alone...I cry and beg and plead for him to come back...he shuns me for a while completely, then one day I get a curt message to the effect of, "I've gotten over my anger enough to start talking to you again, b_____", and of course I pounce on it eagerly and spend the next week to month working my way back into his "good" (and I use the term loosely!) graces. Then things are really great for a while, the promises begin again, I'm being wooed...and I fall for it every time, lol... But nowI'm starting to see that I haven't been able to go full NC because I'm not doing it for the right reasons. I'm mostly doing it is a way to get him to miss me, to realize what he has in me, and come back and apologize like he did the VERY first time (but never since, after that it was always him "giving me another chance", and I've endured 6 breakups since that first one). I still have constant fantasies of a perfect reconciliation, of going back to those original days when he was literally Mr. Perfect and made me feel like a Queen. But as has been mentioned here a lot, the hardest thing is letting go of that fantasy. After all, I'm different, I'm the one who can make a difference in his life...aren't I? Part of me still clings to that, but I think the part that is accepting that I'm not, and no one ever will be, is growing regularly...and there must be a "point of no return" coming eventually that tips the scales once and for all towards going NC for the -right- reasons. Does anyone have a Fast Forward button so I can get there in about 3.6 seconds? :x1mad nondisclosed_email@example.com (Silvaria)Tue, 10 Apr 2012 22:48:14 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p178894,from=rss#post178894https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p178894,from=rss#post178894A refresher on NC. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Affectionatedragon)Thu, 16 Feb 2012 10:16:00 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p161641,from=rss#post161641https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p161641,from=rss#post161641Oh, how I love this post! "Kicking and screaming" describes exactly how I would not let go of the need for "closure" for so long, I continued to waste my precious time on sending unanswered emails for several months! Blessed PEACE when once I stopped! Regards to all. :flower: Ever forward and N-free! Okienondisclosed_email@example.com (okiegal52)Fri, 19 Aug 2011 12:52:14 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p161564,from=rss#post161564https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p161564,from=rss#post161564Bump :flower: nondisclosed_email@example.com (LynnS)Thu, 18 Aug 2011 05:17:28 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p148897,from=rss#post148897https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p148897,from=rss#post148897I have not seen or spoke to my xN but he is always on my mind because i am having to deal with my n mother alot lately. I do however know he is on face book and a photography group i belong to. These are often places i am on the net and i do not want to quit facebook or the photo club. There is no way to avoid him. Suggestions appreciatednondisclosed_email@example.com (suzyq1234)Mon, 21 Feb 2011 16:09:20 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p148464,from=rss#post148464https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p148464,from=rss#post148464I N-dipped last week and before the week was out, he'd turned nasty again. So, I sent the No Contact email to him and then printed out the No Contact Statement found in the Featured Section (Sidebar). (It's fantastic and so empowering!) I have the statement on 3 recipe cards on my bedside table next to the phone and wherever I have an extension. After I sent the No Contact email, he ignored it and sent 2 emails about it being too hard to be with me...I guess cause he couldn't get all he needed from me - my complete submission. I didn't respond to these last 2 emails, but then yesterday I checked my snail mail and there were two letters predating the No Contact but during another time we'd split again. (We were apart more than we were together). I took out my pen and right there, wrote Return to Sender on the envelopes. It felt great. At home, later I found some emails he'd sent a year ago and I found myself roaring with laughter because they were love letters but talk about magical thinking...they were uproariously funny to me this time. nondisclosed_email@example.com (msgig)Mon, 14 Feb 2011 10:07:33 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p148426,from=rss#post148426https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p148426,from=rss#post148426Total NC is the only way to break the ties to an N. It is also the hardest thing to do. Cutting all contact and all means of contact when your heart is still longing for that facade of the man/woman you thought he/she was is tough to bear . It's so final . Your still hoping he or she will wake up and realize what they've lost . Still hoping for the " I'm sorry " and I " love " you . You want so badly for it all to be made right. Not going to happen. They only possible way to start healing is cutting all avenues of contact . If it means holding off contact for one hour...one day...do it. Don't text him , don't call , don't e-mail. Think of your pride ( what you manage to salvage ) , your value ( which he obviously doesn't appreciate ) your self-respect ( which he tried hard to destroy ) your loving nature ( which is laughable and puzzling ) to him , your dignity ( which he made you swallow time after time ) and DON'T TOUCH THAT PHONE !! He doesn't care how your hurting , how many tears you shed, the pain in your heart , the confusion in your head. HE DOES NOT CARE ! It means NOTHING to him. Hard pill to swallow when you love the N so much. But it's not mutual and never will be. Not ever . He's not capable of feeling like you do. He's probably even hinted at it . And you didn't hear him because YOU will change his mind. Did it work ? No it didn't. Just like the ones before you and those who will follow you. He may get angry ...oh well. He may cry ...the tears are fake. He may threaten you ...call the police and report him. But SAVE yourself from further trauma by this damaged person. He won't change ...but YOU will. You'll lose your joy , confidence, family , friends, and worst of all ....YOURSELF. You won't recognize yourself when he's done with you. Disappear off his radar. Make it too hard to contact you and he'll find a new supply ...BUT ...never drop your defenses. He'll sense when you've relaxed and your boundaries are weak and he'll hone in on you again. Just for laughs . Just for some drive by supply , just to humilate and hurt you again...for old times sake. NC is what you must do . If you slip now and then...be prepared for what he'll dish out. If that happens , buck up and go NC again. And again and again until he's just a distant unpleasant memory. nondisclosed_email@example.com (GeorgiaPeach09)Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:47:44 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p147709,from=rss#post147709https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p147709,from=rss#post147709I am stuck in never-never land with N for a few more years...cant quite shut him out yet due to our youngest who is 15. I look forward to the day I can break off contact with N because I get suckered in when I speak with him and he is all normal and friendly. I start questioning whether I am doing the right thing or if its even as bad as I remember. I have to go re-visit all those awful memories of what he has said and done over the last 27 years to see that he is toxic to me and to my lovely sons. nondisclosed_email@example.com (aussigirl)Sat, 05 Feb 2011 10:30:25 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145208,from=rss#post145208https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145208,from=rss#post145208I have blocked his cell and his work number. I also blocked his emails. I know it is so hard to pull away and I am struggling with it myself. This is the only way. I have moments of major anxiety that makes me want to talk to him....but if I wait a few minutes it passes. It helps to think about all of the abuse...during these moments. It is not easy but you don't want to lose your sanity over him...because he knows you are always going to be there...ready and willing to take his abuse...NO ONE deserves what these abusers dish out....we have to re-wire our brains. Please...change your numbers/block his number/filter out his email...whatever you need to do today.nondisclosed_email@example.com (InTheGray)Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:43:19 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145207,from=rss#post145207https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145207,from=rss#post145207Lynn, I am new to this board and it is this post that made me join. In a moment of desperation and weakness I started...once again...searching for something to help me get through another attempt at NC. That is when I found your post. Thank you. I then read the post about Gaslighting and the sample dialogue...it was like the person who wrote it had taken it right from my experiences. I am having a difficult time and know I need help however I seem to have lost trust completely. I am experiencing severe depression along with panic attacks. How can a person do such harm to another...how come I let him. Last year I would have laughed at the possibility of someone pulling the wool over my eyes like he has done. I used to wonder what the heck was wrong with "those women" that let someone take advantage of them or who stay in an abusive relationship...I am just so tired of this and want it over. nondisclosed_email@example.com (InTheGray)Fri, 07 Jan 2011 04:26:22 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145197,from=rss#post145197https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145197,from=rss#post145197Thank you for this post. I will read it every day. 6 months out from a 30yr friendship?/ 10yr relationship? with a NPD! It has been really rough. Saturday is the "Burning Party"...everything goes in the fire; old emails, old investigations, deleting voice mails, photos, things left behind. Interesting enough I am doing this with his sister which he molested as a child. Free and alive again!nondisclosed_email@example.com (aliveagain)Thu, 06 Jan 2011 23:45:58 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145105,from=rss#post145105https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145105,from=rss#post145105Hi Kuldip, I am sorry you are going through this. I understand wondering why did the N do this? But you know if you email her and she doesn't respond, how much worse will you feel? If you are feeling like you are going to contact her, will you please post a separate subject topic, so you can get feedback from more members. Thinking good thoughts for you, Go Westnondisclosed_email@example.com (GoWest)Thu, 06 Jan 2011 08:29:42 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145005,from=rss#post145005https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p145005,from=rss#post145005Another bad day. I want so badly to email her and ask how she could turn off all emotions so quickly, or if she thinks about me or still cares even a bit. I miss her and know how very wrong she was for me.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Kuldip)Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:16:58 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p142643,from=rss#post142643https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p142643,from=rss#post142643I just joined this forum today. I have been in an "on again - off again" relationship with this N man for over 18 years. Last evening he yelled at me on the phone because I asked him why he wouldn't talk on the phone to me when his friends were at his house. I tried to call him back and he won't answer the phone. I just called him again and he acts as if I have done some terrible thing to him. I am constantly kept off balance by his moodiness. I am always walking on eggshells with him because I never know what will set him off. I have known for a long time now that I need to end this destructive relationship. I need some help not caving in and calling him. I know he will eventually call me or come to my house because that is what he always has done in the past. The NC is what I think will help me break away from this abuse, but it is so very hard to do. I don't know how to do this or where to begin. Any support would be helpful at this crises point in my life. nondisclosed_email@example.com (grammyjan)Sun, 05 Dec 2010 11:39:59 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p142605,from=rss#post142605https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p142605,from=rss#post142605Thanks Songoffreedom. I hope the "Goodbye" letter does the trick for your situation. I can't imagine having a child with N, and I think it is doubly hard for you and those of you who have children with the Ns. Not only do you have to protect yourself you have to protect your children too. I am back to NC for just a week now, and like Echo4 says it certainly delays the healing. I was doing so well after 2 weeks (even though I broke it off a month ago), and have allow N-Dipping up until last Sat. Yes, I have ended contact the N's sister, who could possibly be an N. NC is the only way because I have wanted to contact the N so much today, and it is only because I broke NC a week ago. I know the strength will come from NC day after day and staying connected to this board and all you magnificent people! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Kutcheekoo)Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:55:04 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p142556,from=rss#post142556https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p142556,from=rss#post142556Kutcheekoo; don't get down on yourself for making a call; just maintain NC now and forever...it was "his chance" and he would rather power over you than talk with you; it was actually very enlighen to see his N reaction...take good care of yourself... remember NC w/N's sister, don't take or listen to voice mail, email or text about him from her or anyone else at all...sounds like she is N also... I have been NC really for over a year...but by email and phone "about marriage" since May and communications mainly on email (he doesn't text) absolutely ONLY about son (lives with me) since August. I have opened his last email and I will NOT open anymore. I am sending him a "goodbye" letter that if he has anything to say about our son, he must send an email and put the entire message in the subject line becauase I will no longer open them. Things can be more complicated with NC with a child involved; we "only talk" (actually I TELL him what I have already done; no input required) or he gives me information about our son's habits or when he is with his dad. living with a N is H*ll, NC with them is PURE HEAVEN!!!nondisclosed_email@example.com (songoffreedom)Sat, 04 Dec 2010 05:37:35 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141733,from=rss#post141733https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141733,from=rss#post141733The N's sister emailed me tonight, and asked me to contact the N for closure. She had said a previous boyfriend had ended it with her in the same way I was trying to end it with the N, and she was devastated. I guess I got sucked in and called him but he wouldn't pick up the phone so I left a message. I called again, and he still wouldn't pick up the phone. Now I feel like a fool. I know he is feeling better now that he was able to pay me back for the NC by not answering the phone. Anyways, I am kind of shaking right now because I was doing so good with the NC. Well, back to the NC again. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Kutcheekoo)Sat, 20 Nov 2010 23:40:00 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141692,from=rss#post141692https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141692,from=rss#post141692Here I am again. I spent the afternoon reading the Best of N.A.R., and that is keeping me strong. I just implemented a feature by Telus called Call Screen so I can now block the N's calls from work and home! When he calls, he will be prompted with "The party you are trying to reach is not accepting calls at this time." And he cannot leave a message. Yes!!! Man, does that feeling empowering but scary at the same time. I am scared he will come and visit me, but I have changed my locks, and I am lucky that my whole family lives in town in case I need to get away. I also have friends close enough too around that I can bunk with for as long as I need to. Luckily the N and I live 40 min apart, and he works afternoons and me days. I spent my morning day off with a 97 year old friend who is as sharp as a whip. He does horse-racing on the computer. I don't tell him about my problems with the N, but he didn't like him the 1st time he met him over a year ago. He emailed me after our visit and told me he didn't like the way N spoke to me and to never bring him to his place again. He said that I could do a lot better. As if that isn't a red flag waving from the computer screen. Thanks to all of you for helping me stay strong and committed to NC. I am crying for tears of joy now 'cause I know I can really do it. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Kutcheekoo)Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:41:24 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141667,from=rss#post141667https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141667,from=rss#post141667I had been NC with the N for about 7 days and then this Monday I received a card and a phone message. Tuesday 3 phone messages, Wed 4 page letter and 2 phone messages, yesterday 4 phone messages...I listened to the messages, and I "know" that is N-Dipping. Last night I was beside myself and feeling really awful, and I know why. I had been listening to the phone messages. No more! I was worried about how my NC was affecting him. I know the phone messages will start to escalate - especially when he finds out I sent his house key by Registered Mail a week ago and he still hasn't picked it up. He also thought his 4 page letter would do the trick. I know that when gets the key, he'll start the crying routine, and I have weakened every time with those phone messages. He has been so convincing and everything in me in the past has wanted to rescue him from his abandonment issues. Both the card and the letter were partially about how I could get help with my problem - he said medication can help. He knows I can get better, and then I wouldn't react to his behavior anymore. He wrote about how much better I was doing - hardly any reactions in 8 months in a 2 year relationship. NC in every way is the answer. Please do not be tempted by his voice. His voice is what has hooked me from the beginning. It reminds me of how my Dad hooked me in when my Mom was mistreating him. Gee the pull is strong but I know that with each NC moment, I will get stronger and connecting on this board makes me even more resilient. I am hanging onto you wonderful people and others who are practicing NC right now, and we are all making each other stronger and healthier with every minute we stand apart and stay away from the N!nondisclosed_email@example.com (Kutcheekoo)Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:58:12 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141650,from=rss#post141650https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p141650,from=rss#post141650Samba girl, that is a good point. You would be able to contact a normal person. With N's, it's a whole different ballgame. It took me many times of being cheated on,lied to, used etc etc and finally .... thankfully ...... there was the "last straw" and I have been NC for about 6 weeks. You will find your last straw and begin moving forward in your life. Smarter Blonde (formerly LuvUButILoveMeMore) nondisclosed_email@example.com (Smarter Blonde)Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:13:44 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p140459,from=rss#post140459https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p140459,from=rss#post140459Thank you for this. I am new to all of this. Although I have only been seeing my N for 2 months, I was lucky enough to realize what he is. Plus. 2 of my close friends had long-term relationships with Ns so they saw the signs long before I did. BUT...this said, I've already broken up with my N 3 times for various abuses. And each time, I somehow find myself back with him. This is exactly bc of the contact thing. I just contact him as if he's a normal, healthy person--as I have done with many past boyfriends--just to see if he's okay, etc. But he's not normal. He's manipulative. I am not yet at the NC point, but I am very close. And I think interacting with this group will definitely help me. Thank you again.nondisclosed_email@example.com (sambagirl)Tue, 02 Nov 2010 08:29:11 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p139506,from=rss#post139506https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p139506,from=rss#post139506I can't believe how quickly and thoroughly a person with this disorder got to me. Signs of a problem were subtle and spaced out as the courtship began - and we cut it off before things got bad, but it's incredible how close I let this person get & the scale to which it hurt when episodes came up. We split after only 5 months yet I'm devastated. How does one deal the realization that the person they fell in love with isn't real? She'll never be able to provide the love a healthy relationship commands, and will inevitably cause a great deal of suffering to herself and many others...due to an incurable mental disease which doesn't even present a choice. Loosing this person forever feels awful, knowing her life will be filled emotional isolation and chaos is tragic. Thank goodness for this form and the wealth of available information published about NPD. Once the light bulb went off that this is what was going on the path became clear. It sucks in a major way but she has to face her own karma - I am not "supply" for anybody.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Fuse536)Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:24:26 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136470,from=rss#post136470https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136470,from=rss#post136470Thank you...Thank you...Thank you...Lynn!! I am still learning "The Hard Way" that NO CONTACT is the only thing that saves my sanity!! I try to have NC but if he isnt calling me...he is texting me...threatening me..leaving messages after message!!Its absolutely exhausting...am just sooo tired...mentally exhausted...i come to this place for healing and I get it...noone knows what we go thru dealing with this kind of nonsense... I must...I must do better with NC...10 years and it always ends the same!!nondisclosed_email@example.com (rboss1024)Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:36:23 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136300,from=rss#post136300https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136300,from=rss#post136300I have been NC for a month now and I feel so much happier. I am back into playing tennis (I was too depressed while with N) and I feel that life is once again really good! I do think about N every day and even think about unblocking his number. Then I remind myself of the hell I was in due to his tormenting my soul. I AM NOT going back to that hell. I tell myself he is now tormenting some OW's soul and I feel sorry for her. FYI: My relationship with my ex-N was only 8 months. I can't imagine what it would have been like had I been married to him for several years. I admire the courage of those of you who have had long-term relationships with an N and got out. I was able to get my life back in a short time. My soul is now free and I am smiling again! nondisclosed_email@example.com (Toogiving1)Thu, 09 Sep 2010 19:56:35 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136174,from=rss#post136174https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136174,from=rss#post136174.i no longer have contact with my mother for several years due to her unreasonable behaviour ,i have had a nervous breakdown triggered by this,i have always blamed myself,whilst knowing deep down i have done nothing wrong,whilst never telling folk in case they thought i was a problem daughter.what a relief to know i am not alone in this situation.i am trying to recover,but have bad days.my dad never contacts me either,he is the enabling father you have mentioned on this site,my brother blamed me for my conduct(he lives in aussie),the golden boy!he has lived there for 20 years ,and knows little of my relationship with my mum.however since i recently told him about my breakdown,he has started to listen.i had never heard of npd,till i bought a book by karyl mcbride(found on amazon).i answered yes to nearly all the questions she asked about my mum,on whether she has npd.this has had a real bad effect on my mental health.nondisclosed_email@example.com (mandyn)Wed, 08 Sep 2010 11:14:19 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136088,from=rss#post136088https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136088,from=rss#post136088Deletednondisclosed_email@example.com (RunningBuckeye)Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:16:43 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136044,from=rss#post136044https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p136044,from=rss#post136044Ugh, it hit me a bit ago, while reading this forum, why last night was so rough! At least part of it. I've been N dipping! Some of it has been inadvertent but I fixed those issues right after I realized it and will work on the others over the next couple of days. Some of it wasn't so inadvertent but now that I know what comes from it, I have to stop. Period. I've done so well until last night and now I know what caused most of the angst. Be strong, Peace, be strong! <---me talking to myself nondisclosed_email@example.com (WomanCave)Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:26:07 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p134860,from=rss#post134860https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p134860,from=rss#post134860Bride, since you work with creep.. there's no easy answer except to limit contact as much as you can.. Try this link.. it has good information on boundaries. http://www.runboard.com/bnarcissisticabuserecovery.f15.t60nondisclosed_email@example.com (Affectionatedragon)Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:15:35 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p134857,from=rss#post134857https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p134857,from=rss#post134857OMG. Thank goodness I bookmarked this site three months ago while in the depths of hell and depression brought on by WTSP -- that is: White Trash SocioPath -- my best girlfriend came up with that acronym and, she's so right. I posted rules of no contact on my desk -- i work with WTSP -- was able to stick to them for quite some time. but...here i am. writing this post, i guess, to exorcise some of the shame of wanting to be with him KNOWING FULL WELL HOW EVIL he is. NO CONTACT, no contact, no contact. No ConTacT!? help. he is everyone's favorite, charming, handsome, funny...no one at work knows we were together for six months, though they saw me go through hell, never knowing he was the other end of it. quite a conundrum that all my peers know and "love" him and I hated/hate/love him. helpnondisclosed_email@example.com (bridiemurphy)Mon, 16 Aug 2010 19:05:52 +0000 Re: No Contact and N-Dippinghttps://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p134563,from=rss#post134563https://bnarcissisticabuserecovery.runboard.com/p134563,from=rss#post134563Thank You Florida one! =)nondisclosed_email@example.com (Fern67)Wed, 11 Aug 2010 15:16:00 +0000